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Polyamory

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What do you all think about polyamory? I think it would be a good idea for a future real democracy to be free and open and modern also in love, relationships and sex. Polyamory is not about mindless and disrespectful behavior, actually it's the opposite. What do you think? Or have you maybe even never heard of polyamory so far?
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I fully agree with that, and indeed polyamory is a highly recommended (albeit of course not necessary, as each group or commune decides for themselves) element for Future Democracy. :) That goes for polyamory as such, the original and actually only valid concept of that name, not the LGBTQ hijacking attempts of the word, i.e. trying to enforce their various ideologies/perversions upon it. Polyamory is highly recommended for a peaceful, harmonic, stable, fulfilled and happy life and community, while LGBTQ is highly recommended to be seriously scrutinzed. The latter is only implicitely discussed in the Future Democracy book, as ASec Education points of recommended general education in cognitive skills such as logic, scrutiny, skepticism, epistemology, philosophy, and so on.
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I've actually my my wife more or less over discussions around polyamory. We consider our marriage poly-open, but never really found the time yet to explore this in practical ways. We both agree it's a good, even convincing idea, and have met several people who live it fully, some since many decades, all of them happily so.

As for the LGBTQ issue, this is also something that bugs me quite a bit, not only in regards to polyamory, but everywhere this mud tries to seep into. I think it should never be a political or even legal topic, that can always be but a crime as seen by ethics (as law often is, so the definition of a legal crime may well contradict the definition of an ethical crime), but one amongst individuals, especially within groups. I think that true democracy will also provide a social healing process here, as I am absolutely convinced that the LGBTQ and similar matters are strategically doctored into society by agencies which work for groups of people who benefit from perpetual social and inner-individual conflict and suffering, which will be quickly thwarted wherever people live in DGs and DCs as described in the book.
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Re: Polyamory

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Polyamory: Absolutely pro! My favorite book there is "The Ethical Slut" by Catherine Liszt and Dossie Easton. I read it together with my girlfriend a few years ago, and we totally agreed on almost everything. We got close to having a second woman in our relationship (she was like a soul twin of my girlfriend, it was amazing how many things they had in common), but then she had to move very far away for work (she came from Turkey, lived here for a few years, and then moved on to Portugal) and we didn't stay in contact unfortunately. But we've met people who live poly and are very happy that way. (While there are so many really really unhappy mono couples and of course singles out there whose lamentations one has to listen to almost every day and which would dissolve into thin air the moment society turned much more poly than mono.)

LGBTQ: I'm not so sure that all that is "doctored", maybe some parts, I don't know. Overall I wouldn't use such harsh words. But one thing is indeed curious: I've met far more radical, actually extremist, LGBTQ ideologists who are not LGBTQ themselves, or "not much" (rather just in a fashion sort of way because it's the hip thing in certain sub-cultures), while people who are really L, G, B, T, and/or Q, in my experience are usually much less militant on the subject. And this really gives the whole matter an odd taste. Who knows how this will develop in the future? I think there will be very diverse (I spot a pun here, haha) communities in Future Democracy. Theoretically some communes may be very LGBTQ-friendly, others very LGBTQ-adverse, but over time I can imagine this will tend to meet on a middle ground somewhere.
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I'm actually in a poly relationship. We had a talk about the topic years ago with my best friend and her boyfriend a few years ago and step by step moved closer and at some point it was a relationship square. Works fine for all of us so far.

I don't mind LGBT(Q) much, when they're not too loud and intrusive about it, but I have a gay friend who even hates most of that stuff, especially the parades and such, and "faggish talking" etc. He's more a shy sort of a guy and tries to be more or less "unnoticeable" in general, so maybe that's his personal motivation there. But I can agree when people call many LGBT(Q) "fans"/"fanatics" hypocrites and the like, for I think many are, and only do it for all the wrong reasons.
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Wow, that sounds great, Larissa1! I wish you all the best! I've met a few poly-not-just-in-theory people over the years, once even a very old couple (in their seventies and very happy together since their twenties, always hippies and free love, later polyamory).
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Re: Polyamory

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Sorry for not being here for so long. The more so I'm happy to read all your replies. :) That's so great, Larissa1, I wish I find something like that some day. Not the best time now, with Corona and all the GMO-vaxed people out there ... I once had a relationship that was defined poly, but it didn't work out for long. Still, in theory, I really believe it's the right way to live for us humans. Oh, and also for me, "The Ethical Slut" was how I got hooked to the topic. :) And I find it very good that polyamory is mentioned positively in the book! :)
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